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a bit cannabis-like
fresh mind (very awaken)
a bit fresher colors (glowing more)
the surroundings maybe twirl/flow away a bit
turning your head around is quite interesting, because everything
starts looking virtual and not "real" (i mean solid)
like a strong cannabistrip, but also different
altered thoughts (sometimes strange or funny)
mind may cycle around strange ideas
maybe you feel a bit like in an other time for instance
you may feel like in holiday or like in childhood
so your personality shifts a bit (often funny and interesting)
you are often awaken and fresh in mind
you maybe feel a little bit movement in the world around you, like you are
moving while sitting.
you get the feeling, that there is something behind the known reality
this level is partly like tryptamine-hallucinogens (Psilocybin,LSD)
colors are much more glowing (they were intesified)
everything looks energetic
things and walls can get curved, the twirling effect really starts
the difference to tryptamine-hallucinogens is the more static
nature of the hallucinations. Everything looks more like
melting glowing colorized wax and doesnt have that exploding
and fractalized nature of tryptamines. But not all people seem to have
another difference is the fact, that feelings are more stable
on salvia and not so rapidly changing like on tryptamines
the base feeling is often very nice. You feel yourself very alive.
matter seems a more like an energyfield which is not solid, more
a virtual projection in your mind.
your mind is very awaken
maybe your thinking is a bit distorted at the beginning
slight feelings of the presence of other persons/beings/voices
the feeling of beeing at another place or time becomes stronger
when closing your eyes you can dive deep in your mind and
closed eye hallucinations are common (waving energystreams)
distorted feeling of directions (where is up,down,left,front..),
the sense for all these direction is connected with the position of
when walking you walk like drunken to much because coordination
slightly beginning of strange geometries
the world around you seems more and more like a virtual adventure
the feeling of movement increase - you feel often how undefinable forces
(bit like gravity) push you in a direction. That feels like a wind is blowing
through your body and sucks/blows it away.
Rotating or twisting movements are also possible.
you get a good hint for the existence of parallel realities
here starts the real voyaging
effects become stronger/choose another direction as tryptamines
the sucking/pushing feeling is now really strong. People often report, that
their consciousness is sucked backwards out of their head and reality move away
in front. Its a bit like you get a psychedelic asskick (psykick :), that transports
you to a higher dimension. Higher, because you can often see our 3D-world from the
Movement is really common on this level - you are flying through salviaspace or
salviaspace is flying in front of your consciousness. This all happens very fast and
is thats why also a bit confusing and hard to remember.
everything looks very bizarre, sometimes alien
you have the feeling of being somewhere and somewhen else, but
that other reality is as real (or sometimes more real) than your
sometimes its like awaking from a dream. And that dream is your
normal life. Normal life is like an illusion.
you joined the typical salvia-space like returning everytime to
the same point. I think thats due to the fact, that you can
remember on salvia earlier salviatrips very good, so that they are
more present in your mind, just as if they happend right now.
strange or not, the salviaspace is often very familiar, so you
feel like being at your "real home"
you may get the feeling, that this is your real world and the normal
reality is more like watching TV with your minds eye.
on this level the thinking process is distorted very much. With smoking
your thoughts get very strange. You may get in loops or may feel that
your thoughts (i mean "speaking in mind with words") swim in honey.
sometimes they stop for a small time. After that you will "reseted" in
the world, so this process is like dying (stop of thinking) and being
reborn. During this sometimes terrifying experience a small part of
myself can look at this process. Its like the essence of yourself ("soul")
during this alteration of your thinking process you may have the strong
feeling of entities around or in your head. Often around 1-4. They are
like different persons speaking to you (I never "understood" anything).
It is as if you are different persons in all kind of ages and sex.
A good term for this effect is "sensed presence".
sometimes you may also feel the pressence of an female energy, that is
like the godess of salvia showing you her space and view of the world
and saving you from danger.
your bodyfeeling will also be changed strongly. This starts at the
feets working up to your head. You can use this feeling nice as a scale
of the strength of the trip. It only occurs when you dont move.
Within seconds you have the feeling, that your body melts with the
reality. This is connected to the twirling of your sourroundings.
You can also have the feeling as if your bodyparts become stones
for a short time.
Sometimes your body melts with your surroundings and "swimms away" it
twirls and dance in strange objects. I find this very pleasant. It is
like becoming liquid.
If you got enough salvinorin this feeling rise up to your head and you feel
totally detatched from your body. Astral projections are common where you
can fly around as a point.
your surroundings look now very strange. Very strong colors. Flat surfaces
become very 3-dimensional (i.e. ever seen a 4 inch deep (flat) cd-display).
Maybe you have a videochaos-effect, where everything looks repeated.
you may switch to different realities and different personalities.
Experiencing these parallel realities is very common.
in that level I often didnt hear the playing music as like being really
it is a good idea to have a tripsitter around you, that prevent you doing
"silly" things (walking around, destroy something). The sitter has a bit
different role as with LSD or psilocybin, because its mostly not nescessary
to bring someone out of bad feelings on salvia. But with salvia the sitter
should bring someone back to "normal reality". Ofcourse only when
nescessary, and thats the case, when the experience was to heavy. You can
get so far out, that you cant believe, that the "real world" is really
real ;-). It seems more like a big joke played on you, and that the so
called "reality" is only one small part of "being". Its like living your
whole life in a holodeck and now have seen the reality-generating grid
If you have some experience you normaly dont need a sitter, because you
are more familiar with the effects and you know for sure you come back.
Ofcourse also experienced trippers can be shaken to the soul by salvia.
Keep in mind, that the tripsitter is in the eyes of the tripper very strange
and like from another world/reality. So getting contact can be a bit
in level 4 and 5 it can be happen, that you forget, that you smoked some
salvia, or even that you did a kind of psychedelic.
when you close your eyes it can happen that you see different scenes. Its
like looking through the eyes of a different person.
with open eyes your room will look totally different. It changes its form.
It expands and collapse. You will experience a very strange geometrie.
Things are side by side, who arent that in the real world. Everything is
broken, twisted, strangely arranged. You will find things building forms
together (i.e. built up a perfect circle). Your Body-/Realityfeeling
(this is merged together) is also influeced by these strange geometries,
so you are also folded and twisted and maybe parted in 2 pieces.
level 4 and 5 are very strange, but I found it the best, to do nothing
than sitting/lying still and try to accumulate as much as possible out of
on this level the whole concept of reality goes down the drain.
effects from level 4 will be intesified.
you may experience things only heard from quantumphysics and theories from
objects you see in your room are not interpreted in the usual way. Maybe you
see your computer-tower as a skyscraper. In that way everything is interpreted
by the brain differently. You think you are at a totally different place.
But you act in the normal way but only to a different reality. So in the eyes
of the obserser the tripper did silly things. Thats why people walk around
or grab things and so on.
the experiences on this level can be quite frightening. The pressence of
entities can be heavy (but they are normally friendly).
it is possible to get out of the "reality creation process". Maybe you see
what we call reality like a film that is placed in your mind. You can have
the feeling that reality is only an illusion like in the film "Matrix".
This can be so frightening, because it seems (or is ;-) so real. Thats why
some users dont trust the reality for a while.
maybe you become an object, get sliced, are scanned by "aliens", exist
multiple, switching through realities like zapping TV. On this level is
nearly everything possible.
salviatraveller often describe a kind of break of the normal timeline.
Something like a timeline doesnt seem to really exist - its more an illusion of
our all-day-conciousness. Under Salvias influence the spirit can travel through
all realities and also through all times. Time seems more like a normale
direction in which you can move, but it is not beyond our influence like in
sometimes you feel controled by alien powers.
the normal world often seems like a kind of big joke played on you,
everything is nothing more than an imagination.
I find, that Salvia didnt expand your feelings like mushrooms or other
tryptamines. But due to such weird experiences fear can rise up. One problem
is, that you may have forgotten, that you took salvia. And you are are maybe
a different personality not really knowing how to deal with a psychedelic
experience. But I think with some excercise you can deal better and better
with the experience (well nevertheless there will be earthshaking ones).
sometimes you think, that you really did it this time. You think you crosed
the border with no ticket back. But dont fear about that, you will come back
to the (poor ;-) normal reality.
it is common, that you forget a lot from level 5, because its very hard to
bring the experienced things together with the things you believed and
knowed to date. It is also sometimes hard to find out, in what you should
believe and what not after the trip, because the experince touchs you so
Hints and safer-use:
Especially on your first journeys or on jouneys with a much higher dose (new extract)
you can be very surprised how salvia acts. Thats why its a good idea to have a sitter
present in such situations (a good friend). Its best when no other persoen except the
sitter is present. The sitter is mainly for your safety. He prevents fire or
waterdamage (accidently hitting the bong). He makes sure you dont wander around
in the altered state. In very rare cases he have to ground the tripper. But normaly
the sitter should be quiet and dont disturb the traveller.
I find salvia to be extremly strange, weird. The realness of the experince is
the hardest part to work through afterwards. Its the most interesting drug i
know. It is not as aesthetic or emotional as tryptamines, but therefore it
shows you the strangest possible universes. Sometimes you think you are the
only one who recognizes, that the world is not real, but more an informational
matrix, controlled by things/beings/forces, we dont understand. By the way
the film "Matrix" touches some of the salvia effects - the idea, that reality
is a kind of calculated informational matrix.
Most scientists explore the universe, but thats a bit like exploring a tv-film,
but not the mechanism behind. With salvia you have the feeling, that you can
leave the reality and watch/feel the base-mechanism of reality.
This can be frightening, because you may get the feeling, that everything you
have done to date is wasted, because you did it in a virtual (?) reality. But
when you look closer, that that virtual (?) reality, then you notice, that
such a fantastic complex thing is as good as a solid reality.
Another bit frightening effect is the feeling, that all these strange
dimensions are directly "here" - in and around as (parted from us by another
Level 4 or 5 trips can easily change your thoughts upon things as soul,death,
consciousness,reality or god. Some of the things in the salvia-dimension are
more wierd then aliens visiting earth.
When smoking my trips have a relativ constant lenght. A level 3 trip is for
around 5 minutes strong, from minute 5 to 10 the intensity decrease. And after
minuten 10 I am downed nearly total, only with a lightheaded feeling lasting
some more minutes. In strong trips the heaviest phase (where you can only look
and wonder) is around 7 minutes long, and I am downed after 15 Minutes.
I really love the short duration, because you couldnt remember much more.
I have the opinion, that the setting and emotional set is unlike with tryptamin-
hallucinogens on salvia not so important. I also tried salvia after a party with
much alcohol and some good gras, but didnt got a bad trip. The salvia overpowerd
the alcohol, while THC is a good thing to enhance salviatrips. N2O and salvia
is not very interesting. Mixing it with mushrooms or other tryptamines can
result into a very clear but confusing heavy trip.
I usually use the same dose, around one bonghead full of crushed salvialeafes.
This is around 1 cm^3 material, or around 0.3 g. I usually smoke this portion
with one big hit, but very slowly, so that the water (or better ice) can cool
the smoke a bit down, because else the smoke it hot burning. I smoke that one
hit in 20-30 seconds. Most often nearly everything burned down to ash. When the
first hit was to small, then i smoke the rest as fast as possible. I put my
bong/waterpipe to the side and held this big hit as long as possible. I would
say another 10-30 seconds. Often i recognise, that the salvia pushes me up, as
long as i held the smoke in my lungs. I have read, that you need at least 1 mg
of salvinorin A, to reach experiences like in level 4 and 5. But I have also
read, that there are around 1.5 g salvinorin per kg dried leafes, so I reached
the Levels described above with around 0.5 mg salvianorin (or i had very
potent leafes). So be careful, because also smoking leafes (NOT potentiated)
can take you very far.
I had to talk down a good friend for a good hour, before he trusted me (but only
until he know it better ;-) and he also smoked "only" around my typical amount.
I first thought nothing happens (he smoked in 5 or 6 hits), but then he was far
Oh and sometimes you may notice heavy (and i mean really heavy :-) sweating.
Its a funny feeling and not bad. Its as when all your cells open up simutaneously.
But its bad wet afterwards (but also dries fast) :-(.
Other god sites of salvia are, that you dont get nausea, and that bad trips
usualy not happen. Out of around 65 trips to date i found only one (my real first
one) terryfing, but it was over after around 5 minutes.
Salvia is very unique. Its a nice tool to explore things that are unbelieveable.
To me salvia works more like a tool for reality switching than a drug. The salvia-
experience doesnt have the typical druged feeling. Its more a key to the
deepest secrets of the universe ;-)